House lawmakers Hakeem Jeffries and Doug Collins couldn’t be more different.
Jeffries is a Democrat and an avid hip-hop devotee, while Collins is a Republican who favors country music. Jeffries hails from a largely urban New York district, and much further south, Collins represents a largely rural pocket in northeast Georgia.
Yet, somehow this duo found common ground to pass a major policy initiative this past year. And now one of the oldest schools in the country will award them with its College Prize for Civility in Public Life.
They sat down with NPR exclusively Thursday, a day before Allegheny College awards them the joint prize at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C.
“Game recognizes game,” Collins says signaling Jeffries in a hip-hop reference from his Capitol Hill office. “This man right here. You want to … partner with him.”
Jeffries returns the favor.
“Although I appreciate Doug Collins quoting … one of the philosophical underpinnings of hip hop — which is game recognizes game,” Jeffries says between Collins’ laughs. It “shows you how much game Doug Collins has at the end of the day.”
As they sit recounting their bipartisan bond, it’s a brief respite from the controversy broiling just outside Collins’ office door.
Moments earlier, a whistleblower complaint against President Trump had been released detailing concerns that the White House attempted to lock down transcripts of calls with the president of Ukraine and other foreign officials. That release was followed by hours-long committee testimony of Joseph Maguire, the acting Director of National Intelligence.
Collins and Jeffries both sit on the House Judiciary Committee, ground zero for an ongoing House impeachment inquiry into Trump and on opposite sides of a bitter, partisan fight. Yet, they were able to score a major legislative win this year.
Their first was a bill to protect songwriters in 2013 — and later the two even posted a joint Spotify list of their favorite songs. However, their much tougher work collaboration came with criminal justice reform signed into law in December that helped shorten sentences for some inmates.
Jeffries and Collins say the Allegheny prize for that work is a major honor.
“It’s reflective of the fact that we were able to come together, which meant leadership from Doug Collins, to get things done and make a difference in the lives of the American people in both criminal justice reform and as it relates to the Music Modernization Act,” Jeffries said. “And I was proud to partner with him in that regard.”
Allegheny College President Hilary Link says Jeffries and Collins exemplify something in dire need today: Civility.
“They come from drastically different backgrounds, geographic backgrounds, racial backgrounds, political backgrounds and socioeconomic background. And they know that they stand a very opposite sides of the political spectrum from each other,” she said “But they also know that by finding some form of commonality — whether that’s their faith, their taste in music or an appreciation of what the other side for lack of a better term is trying to do — they know that through finding some form of commonality they can overcome those differences to really make a difference for our political landscape and really for the country as a whole.”
She says her school found a dramatic decline in students’ interests to serve in public life in recent years. Rather, those same students would volunteer at a shelter, than work in city hall.
And that public service, and corresponding need for civility, must continue to be spotlighted. The school is in its ninth year of issuing the award.
“I think what we’re trying to do with the civility prize is really draw attention to people who are not falling prey to the incivility and the demonization,” Link said, “so that we can present models to our students that Allegheny as well as to anyone else that it is possible to do this and to solve really big issues working with someone with whom you don’t you may not agree at all.”
Collins and Jeffries will follow in the footsteps of previous recipients like the the late Sen. John McCain and former Vice President Joe Biden as well as Supreme Court Justices Ruth Bader Ginsberg and the late Antonin Scalia.
They met after joining the same freshman class of House lawmakers in 2013 and serving on the Judiciary Committee. Jeffries remembers it was Collins who reached out to work together.
And it’s that bond that makes this duo think their bipartisan bond can survive even a bitter, partisan fight over impeachment.
“We are obviously in a very intense hyper-partisan era. But that’s not unlike previous moments in American history where there were intense disagreements,” Jeffries said. And “the resiliency and the power of American exceptionalism has always gotten us through prior instances of intense internal conflict. And so I’m confident that the same will happen as we move forward.”
“If I was no longer serving tomorrow … the ability that we’ve had to work together, to get this prize together,” he said, “is just one of the pinnacles of my time in public service.”